1908-D $20 Motto MS67

CERTIFICATION#: 06666147
PCGS#: 9148

Owner's Comments

Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88): Until 1983, when a sizable hoard of several hundred pieces was discovered in Central America, the 1908-D With Motto was one of the series' most underrated issues and an issue that was very difficult to obtain in MS-63 or better condition. Now, the issue must be considered only scarce in MS-63 or lesser grade and even in MS-64 and MS-65 condition it is only moderately rare. Certainly there are many issues in the series that are much rarer in MS-65 than this one. Several superb (MS-67) quality pieces of this issue exist. The Eliasberg coin, now owned by Dr. Steven Duckor, is amazing, one of the nicest Saint-Gaudens double eagles of any date or mint I have seen. The Browning Collection held in trust in a Texas bank also contains a nearly perfect piece, and dealer Al Adams recently purchased another at auction that had been graded "MS-67" by PCGS. The Winner Delp Sale (1972) also contained an MS-67 or better example. Dr. Thaine Price's specimen is nearly in the class with the others, MS-65+ at least, and I have seen a few others of this quality.

Since the detail on the master hub was strengthened at the time the motto was added, the 1908-D With Motto appears to be much sharper and more defined on the obverse than the 1908-D No Motto. The typical 1908-D With Motto is very sharply struck with frosty but slightly granular surfaces. Lustre is generally very good, but usually a bit less vibrant than on the typical 1908-D No Motto. Color is usually greenish gold or orange or, on occasion, light to medium orange gold.

Diameter: 34.00 millimeters Designer: Augustus Saint Gaudens Edge: Lettered
Mintage: 349,500 Weight: 33.40 grams Metal Content: 90% Gold, 10% Copper
35
1,515
1
40
1,520
45
1,520
1
45+
1,520
50
1,525
10
50+
1,525
53
1,530
10
53+
1,530
55
1,555
46
55+
1,555
58+
1,590
60
1,655
28
62+
1,845
65+
6,950
4
66+
24,500
1

Rarity and Survival Estimates

Grades Survival Estimate Numismatic Rarity Relative Rarity by Type Relative Rarity by Series
All Grades 23,333 R-2.7 30 / 49 TIE 32 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 10,333 R-2.9 29 / 49 TIE 31 / 54 TIE
65 or Better 400 R-6.2 30 / 49 TIE 31 / 54 TIE

Condition Census

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade Simpson collection
1 MS67 PCGS grade Dr. Steven Duckor collection
1 MS67 PCGS grade  
4 MS66 PCGS grade Heritage 3/2013:4443, $18,800
4 MS66 PCGS grade