Coins Certified as of 2/9

My Coin #-4755

1819/(8) 1C Large Date, BN MS65BN

PCGS#: 1603

Owner's Comments

PCGS grade. Ex 1974 ANA Sale (Paramount), lot 333-Mike Friedman-Del Bland 8/26/74-C. Douglas Smith (according to Doug's typed note on the envelope, he traded 5 gem mint state Randall Hoard 1820 N-13 cents plus an MS60 1819 N-1 to Del Bland for this coin at 1:05 AM)-Jerry A. Bobbe 9/78-Del Bland 1/31/84.

Expert Comments

Ron Guth: 1819 Large Cents are found with either a Large Date or a Small Date (the difference is quite apparent).  One of the Large Date varieties is Newcomb 1.  Because Newcomb 1 shows a clear 9 over 8, it is known not as an 1819 Large Date but as the 1819 Overdate.  Newcomb 2 is also an overdate, but the undertype is weak and only visible on early did states.  Hence, Newcomb 2 is known as the 1819/(8) Large Date (the 8 in parentheses indicates that the undertype is not always evident).  All other Newcomb varieties for the year are Small Dates.

The 1819/(8) Large Date is also a repunched date.  The 8 of the date consists of a small "Block 8" punched over a larger, old-style "Script 8" (expand any of the images above and look at 8 of the date to see precisely what is being described).

In terms of condition, the 1819/(8) Large Date Large Cent is fairly common in Mint State, with a nice cluster of coins at the MS-62 to MS-63 levels.  However, these numbers are deceptive because most of these coins came from collections that were graded and sold within the past few years,  Most of the coins went back into collectors' hands and are effectively off the market.  Red-Brown examples of this major variety can be found, but full Red examples, though they exist, are exceedingly rare.

Relative to the other major varieties of the year (1819/8 and Small Date), the 1819/(8) Large Date Large Cent is the most common of the three by a small margin.

Diameter: 28.00 millimeters Designer: Robert Scot Edge: Plain
Mintage: 2,671,000 Weight: 10.89 grams Metal Content: Copper

Rarity and Survival Estimates

Grades Survival Estimate Numismatic Rarity Relative Rarity by Type Relative Rarity by Series
All Grades 2,000 R-4.6 20 / 48 TIE 35 / 81 TIE
60 or Better 125 R-7.7 26 / 48 TIE 38 / 81 TIE
65 or Better 3 R-9.8 4 / 48 TIE 6 / 81 TIE

Condition Census

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS65BN PCGS grade
1 MS65BN estimated grade  
1 MS65BN estimated grade  
4 MS64BN PCGS grade High Desert Collection (PCGS Set Registry)
4 MS64BN PCGS grade