1809/8 $5 MS65

CERTIFICATION#: -26256
PCGS#: 8104

Owner's Comments

Estimated grade. Ex. Newlin (1884) Sold by Bowers & Ruddy Nov '79 Price realized $25000

Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88): This is one of the most common dates of this type and is reasonably available in all conditions including choice uncirculated. As is the case with most dates of this type, the typical specimen is well struck. Although some cataloguers have listed certain examples as simply "1809", all known specimens are actually overdates.

 

 

Ron Guth: Specialist know of only one die variety for 1809: BD-1 (Breen 1-A).  The overdate status of this variety is unclear.  Both Bass and Dannreuther questioned the undertype, with Dannreuther noting "There is something under the 9, but whether it is an 8 or remnants of an erroneously punched 9 is uncertain."

Numerous MS64 and better examples are known of this variety and date.

Sources and/or recommended reading:
John W. Dannreuther and Harry W. Bass, Jr., "Early U.S. Gold Coin Varieties"

Diameter: 25.00 millimeters Designer: John Reich Edge: Reeded
Mintage: 33,875 Weight: 8.75 grams Metal Content: 91.7% Gold, 8.3% Copper
20
4,050
25
4,300
45+
7,200
50+
9,000
53+
9,600
55+
10,200
58+
11,200
62+
19,000
64+
72,500
3
65+
195,000
66
260,000
1

Rarity and Survival Estimates

Grades Survival Estimate Numismatic Rarity Relative Rarity by Type Relative Rarity by Series
All Grades 350 R-6.3 7 / 11 37 / 42
60 or Better 150 R-7.5 8 / 11 37 / 42
65 or Better 6 R-9.7 5 / 11 28 / 42 TIE

Condition Census

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS66 PCGS grade  
2 MS65 PCGS grade
2 MS65 PCGS grade
2 MS65 PCGS grade  
2 MS65 PCGS grade