1837 10C No Stars, Large Date MS65 Certification #06617307, PCGS #4561

Owner's Comments

Mintage: 682,500 (Both date sizes)
Obverse Dies: 3 Known
Fortin Top 100 Seated Dime Varieties #1 - F-101c
The No Stars obverse shows the Christian Gobrecht rendering of the Thomas Sully design, while the reverse has a wreath with ONE DIME, thin long leaves with long stemmed closed berries and the legend UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. All design elements except the date were hubbed into the master die, a technological breakthrough for the time period. First coinage of this group was 30 brilliant proofs struck on June 30, 1837 at the direction of Mint Director, Robert Patterson.

Plate Coin: Fortin-101c, Bold luster highlists finest known example of shattered obverse and clashed dies variety.

Expert Comments

Ron Guth

1837 was a transitional year for the Dime series.  In that year, the Mint retired the old Capped Bust design and replaced it with the Seated Liberty design.  This was not the first time that the public saw Christian Gobrecht's vision of Miss Liberty sitting on a rock.  In 1836, the Philadelphia Mint struck the Gobrecht Dollar, featuring the Seated Liberty design, but its release was so limited that only a very few Americans actually held it in their hands and viewed the design.  In fact, the 1837 Seated Liberty Dime has been nicknamed "Mini-Gobrecht" because of it's similarity to the starless 1836 Dollar.

Within the 1837 Seated Liberty Dimes, collectors have two major choices: Large Date or Small Date.  The date logotype on the former is considerably larger than the small date, it nearly fills the space between the base of the rock and the denticles, and the bottom of the date curves in roughly the same arc as the denticles.  The Small Date logotype is noticeably smaller and the top of the date is almost parallel to the base of the rock.  The 7 on the Small Date is nearly half the size of the 7 on the Large Date.

The Large Date 1837 Dime is approximately three times as rare as the 1837 Small Date and is more readily available in Mint State by a considerable margin.  The most common grade for the Large Date is MS63, with slightly fewer in MS64, yet with a fair number of MS65's.  In MS66, the 1837 Large Date Seated Liberty Dime is very rare and MS67 appears to be the best grade available (but only in extremely limited numbers).

Thomas Sully/Christian Gobrecht
17.90 millimeters
2.67 grams
90% Silver, 10% Copper
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Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

65 or Better 1750 R-4.7 3 / 3 98 / 122 TIE
All Grades 300 R-6.4 3 / 3 100 / 122 TIE
60 or Better 40 R-8.7 3 / 3 90 / 122 TIE
65 or Better 1750
All Grades 300
60 or Better 40
65 or Better R-4.7
All Grades R-6.4
60 or Better R-8.7
65 or Better 3 / 3
All Grades 3 / 3
60 or Better 3 / 3
65 or Better 98 / 122 TIE
All Grades 100 / 122 TIE
60 or Better 90 / 122 TIE

Condition Census Learn More

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade MS67 PCGS grade

High Desert Collection

1 MS67 PCGS grade
1 MS67 estimated grade

Heritage 5/2005:6386 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection - Heritage 6/2014:30243, $44,062.50

4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
MS67 PCGS grade #1 MS67 PCGS grade

High Desert Collection

#1 MS67 PCGS grade
#1 MS67 estimated grade

Heritage 5/2005:6386 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection - Heritage 6/2014:30243, $44,062.50

#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade