1908-D $20 Motto MS67 Certification #06666147, PCGS #9148

Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88)

Until 1983, when a sizable hoard of several hundred pieces was discovered in Central America, the 1908-D With Motto was one of the series' most underrated issues and an issue that was very difficult to obtain in MS-63 or better condition. Now, the issue must be considered only scarce in MS-63 or lesser grade and even in MS-64 and MS-65 condition it is only moderately rare. Certainly there are many issues in the series that are much rarer in MS-65 than this one. Several superb (MS-67) quality pieces of this issue exist. The Eliasberg coin, now owned by Dr. Steven Duckor, is amazing, one of the nicest Saint-Gaudens double eagles of any date or mint I have seen. The Browning Collection held in trust in a Texas bank also contains a nearly perfect piece, and dealer Al Adams recently purchased another at auction that had been graded "MS-67" by PCGS. The Winner Delp Sale (1972) also contained an MS-67 or better example. Dr. Thaine Price's specimen is nearly in the class with the others, MS-65+ at least, and I have seen a few others of this quality.

Since the detail on the master hub was strengthened at the time the motto was added, the 1908-D With Motto appears to be much sharper and more defined on the obverse than the 1908-D No Motto. The typical 1908-D With Motto is very sharply struck with frosty but slightly granular surfaces. Lustre is generally very good, but usually a bit less vibrant than on the typical 1908-D No Motto. Color is usually greenish gold or orange or, on occasion, light to medium orange gold.
Diameter
34.00 millimeters
Designer
Augustus Saint Gaudens
Edge
Lettered
Mintage
349500
Weight
33.40 grams
Metal Content
90% Gold, 10% Copper
Region
The United States of America
Pop Higher
0
Pop Lower
3537
Price Guide
PCGS Population
Auctions - PCGS Graded
Auctions - NGC Graded

Rarity and Survival Estimates

Grades
65 or Better 23333 R-2.7 30 / 49 TIE 32 / 54 TIE
All Grades 10333 R-2.9 29 / 49 TIE 31 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 400 R-6.2 30 / 49 TIE 31 / 54 TIE

Condition Census

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade MS67 PCGS grade

Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Ruddy 10/1982:1028 - Dr. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Stack's/Bowers 1/2013:13346, $108,688 - Simpson Collection

1 MS67 PCGS grade MS67 PCGS grade

Dr. & Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2012:4606, $83,375

1 MS67 PCGS grade
1 MS67 PCGS grade
5 MS66+ PCGS grade

Fox Collection