1908-D $20 No Motto MS65+ Certification #06666145, PCGS #9143

Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88)

A few years ago, a moderate sized hoard of this issue was uncovered (along with many thousands of other Mint State double eagles) in Central America. I do not know the exact quantity but it was probably several hundred pieces. Most were in the MS-60 to MS-63 range but some were in the MS-64 category. Of the many pieces I saw from the group, none could be called a full MS-65, although several were close, but it is possible that there were a few true gems in the hoard. Prior to the discovery of this hoard, choice Mint State or better examples of this issue were almost impossible to find. Even now, a true gem must be considered a major rarity, among the rarest in the entire series. The Browning Collection specimen is a full gem, as is one owned by a prominent Eastern collector, but I don't recall ever seeing one nicer than MS-65+. This issue is still underrated, but now only at the highest grade levels, thanks to the hoard.

The 1908-D No Motto is typically well struck, although the obverse is rather "flat" due to poor die detail. Lustre is nearly always very good and the surfaces are generally quite satiny although many fully frosty specimens also exist. Color is almost always a light to medium greenish and coppery gold.
PCGS #
9143
Designer
Augustus Saint Gaudens
Edge
Lettered
Diameter
34.00 millimeters
Weight
33.40 grams
Mintage
663750
Metal
90% Gold, 10% Copper
Pop Higher
15
Pop Lower
5451
Region
The United States of America
Price Guide
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Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades
65 or Better 28333 R-2.7 1 / 3 32 / 54 TIE
All Grades 16333 R-2.8 1 / 3 34 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 550 R-5.9 1 / 3 33 / 54
65 or Better 28333
All Grades 16333
60 or Better 550
65 or Better R-2.7
All Grades R-2.8
60 or Better R-5.9
65 or Better 1 / 3
All Grades 1 / 3
60 or Better 1 / 3
65 or Better 32 / 54 TIE
All Grades 34 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 33 / 54

Condition Census Learn More

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS66+ PCGS grade MS66+ PCGS grade

Bella Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - “A&A Saints” Collection (PCGS Set Registry)

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

David Akers - Dr. & Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2012:4604, $25,300 - Fox Collection

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade
2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade
2 MS66 PCGS grade
MS66+ PCGS grade #1 MS66+ PCGS grade

Bella Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - “A&A Saints” Collection (PCGS Set Registry)

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

David Akers - Dr. & Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2012:4604, $25,300 - Fox Collection

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade
MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade
#2 MS66 PCGS grade