Perfection 9

2016 2017
Current
Rank
3
Set
Complete
100.00%
Set
Rating
67.415
GPA with
Top Bonuses
67.415
GPA
Weighted
66.663

Retired Statistics 6/25/2018

Rank
3
GPA Weighted
67.415
Complete
100.00%
Set Rating
67.415
About This Set: 2017
I added NO coins this year that would improve this set. I did replace a few coins with ones that
have more eye appeal. I still buy beautiful halves in lower grades that don't improve the set.

2016 CAC Complete Set
I have had a complete set for about two years. I was going to post it last year but choose not to in order to allow Pete Shireman to be on top for his fifth year. 2016 was a good year for Barbers in that Shireman, Greensboro and other nice examples were available for purchase.
I was able to buy many coins but also had to pass on others that I liked due to price.

I could easily have surpassed Mr. Duckor if I would buy non CAC coins. However a top set of all time needs to have every or at least the majority of coins strong for the grade. While Duckor had amazing coins, twenty of them were not CAC. I believe Mr. Duckor changed his thinking in that his latest top set of early Walkers seem to be all CAC!
There are many Barber Halves in the top grades that there are NO CAC examples of. Therefore I am stuck and cannot easily improve.

I also passed on certain coins due to value. For example, the beautiful 1896-O in MS67. It sold for 88K. My 66+ is a gem at 44K. I did not feel that double the price was worth it just for the points.

I have been critical of the top pop bonus scoring which I find absurd. The total score of the coins is what should determine a top set and not how many top pops someone can buy. Top pop scoring needs to be eliminated as it stops some competition and is against the spirit of building sets.
I also like to give praise. I applaud PCGS in keeping the highest pops correct for the Barber half series. They have resisted upgrading Barbers and therefore creating more top pops. It is hard to believe, but there are twenty two Barber Halves with a pop of one in 67 or 67+ with none higher. This is amazing. It appears that PCGS will not allow the crack out dealers to get 67 upgrades in this series. Good work PCGS!

Lastly, I believe the prices for many Barbers as well as other series are inaccurate. Most coins trade based on what others sold for. However PCGS now has
data for around 30 years of the true pops of every coin and its date. Example: The iconic 1904-S in 67 is a Pop 3. There are 22 other 67's that are Pop 1 and therefore much rarer in the top
grade(s). Why should an 04-S sell for about 100K and these other 22 coins substantially less when they are actually MUCH rarer? They should NOT!
As noted, prices are usually based on what a previous coin sold for and not its true rarity.
Can pricing be changed? Probably! If PCGS adjusted the scoring on all sets based on the true rarity of the coins, then prices would slowly change as registry buyers would need or need other coins as much or more than the current keys. Once done, the rarity and score would change based on any new coins being found or upgraded. EX: A pop 1 becomes a pop 3. It score would be automatically lowered.

I would be happy to help with massive scoring changes across all sets!

Image Item PCGS # Date Denom Grade PCGS # Pop PCGS # Pop Higher Pop Pop Higher Comments
1892 6461 1892 50C MS68 3 0 30
CAC
1892-O 6462 1892-O 50C MS66 5 2 54
CAC
1892-S 6464 1892-S 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1893 6465 1893 50C MS66+ 2 1 21
CAC
1893-O 6466 1893-O 50C MS66 5 0 50
CAC
1893-S 6467 1893-S 50C MS65 7 2 72
CAC
1894 6468 1894 50C MS66 10 5 105
CAC
1894-O 6469 1894-O 50C MS67 2 1 21
CAC
1894-S 6470 1894-S 50C MS66 4 2 42
CAC
1895 6471 1895 50C MS66+ 4 1 41
CAC
1895-O 6472 1895-O 50C MS67 2 0 20
CAC
1895-S 6473 1895-S 50C MS65+ 1 6 16
CAC
1896 6474 1896 50C MS67 1 0 10
CAC
1896-O 6475 1896-O 50C MS66+ 1 1 11
CAC
1896-S 6476 1896-S 50C MS67 1 0 10
CAC
1897 6477 1897 50C MS67 3 0 30
CAC
1897-O 6478 1897-O 50C MS68 1 0 10
CAC
1897-S 6479 1897-S 50C MS67+ 2 0 20
CAC
1898 6480 1898 50C MS66 11 8 118
CAC
1898-O 6481 1898-O 50C MS66 5 1 51
CAC
1898-S 6482 1898-S 50C MS66+ 2 0 20
CAC
1899 6483 1899 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1899-O 6484 1899-O 50C MS66+ 3 0 30
CAC
1899-S 6485 1899-S 50C MS66+ 1 3 13
CAC
1900 6486 1900 50C MS67 2 0 20
CAC
1900-O 6487 1900-O 50C MS66 4 1 41
CAC
1900-S 6488 1900-S 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1901 6489 1901 50C MS67 2 0 20
CAC
1901-O 6490 1901-O 50C MS66 1 2 12
CAC
1901-S 6491 1901-S 50C MS66 3 3 33
CAC
1902 6492 1902 50C MS66+ 2 2 22
CAC
1902-O 6493 1902-O 50C MS66 3 0 30
CAC
1902-S 6494 1902-S 50C MS67+ 2 0 20
CAC
1903 6495 1903 50C MS66 7 0 70
CAC
1903-O 6496 1903-O 50C MS66+ 3 1 31
CAC
1903-S 6497 1903-S 50C MS68 1 0 10
CAC
1904 6498 1904 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1904-O 6499 1904-O 50C MS66+ 2 2 22
CAC
1904-S 6500 1904-S 50C MS67 3 0 30
CAC
1905 6501 1905 50C MS67 2 2 22
CAC
1905-O 6502 1905-O 50C MS68 2 0 20
CAC
1905-S 6503 1905-S 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
1906 6504 1906 50C MS67 2 0 20
CAC
1906-D 6505 1906-D 50C MS66+ 2 1 21
CAC
1906-O 6506 1906-O 50C MS67+ 2 0 20
CAC
1906-S 6507 1906-S 50C MS67+ 1 1 11
CAC
1907 6508 1907 50C MS66+ 2 1 21
CAC
1907-D 6509 1907-D 50C MS67+ 2 0 20
CAC
1907-O 6510 1907-O 50C MS67 2 0 20
CAC
1907-S 6511 1907-S 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1908 6512 1908 50C MS66 9 3 93
CAC
1908-D 6513 1908-D 50C MS67 3 2 32
CAC
1908-O 6514 1908-O 50C MS68 1 0 10
CAC
1908-S 6515 1908-S 50C MS66 3 3 33
CAC
1909 6516 1909 50C MS66+ 5 0 50
CAC
1909-O 6517 1909-O 50C MS67+ 1 0 10
CAC
1909-S 6518 1909-S 50C MS67 4 2 42
CAC
1910 6519 1910 50C MS66+ 1 0 10
CAC
1910-S 6520 1910-S 50C MS67 2 2 22
CAC
1911 6521 1911 50C MS66 18 1 181
CAC
1911-D 6522 1911-D 50C MS66+ 3 3 33
CAC
1911-S 6523 1911-S 50C MS66 7 3 83
CAC
1912 6524 1912 50C MS66+ 1 0 10
CAC
1912-D 6525 1912-D 50C MS66+ 4 1 41
CAC
1912-S 6526 1912-S 50C MS66 9 0 90
CAC
1913 6527 1913 50C MS66 7 2 72
CAC
1913-D 6528 1913-D 50C MS66+ 1 1 11
CAC
1913-S 6529 1913-S 50C MS66 6 2 62
CAC
1914 6530 1914 50C MS66+ 1 0 10
CAC
1914-S 6531 1914-S 50C MS66+ 4 0 40
CAC
1915 6532 1915 50C MS66+ 2 0 20
CAC
1915-D 6533 1915-D 50C MS66+ 4 0 40
CAC
1915-S 6534 1915-S 50C MS66+ 1 2 12
CAC

Comments


Steve, I just noticed your comments. Thank You! I appreciate them. I also hope that people see that YOU, a well known collector who has built major sets is a supporter of CAC and their stricter grading standards.

Posted at 6/28/2017 6:13 AM by Perfection

One other point I should mention that none of the coins in my set were "+" because pcgs didn't start "+" coins till over 3 years latter. Many of the coins have since "+" which would have given the set a higher grade. Perfection you own one of my favorite Barber Halves the 1904 pcgs 67+. The coin was graciously sold to me by fellow Numismatist Dale a Friend! The 1904 is extremely difficult to get in a high grade. The coin is fully struck, has great toning and original skin! Congratulations again for caring on the tradition of high quality Barber Halves . To me a beautiful and under rated series! Steve Duckor

Posted at 5/18/2017 8:49 PM by sduckor

Perfection , you have put together a beautiful set! Congrats. When I submitted my set to Heritage in December 2009 to be auctioned at the ANA in 2010 CAC was new on the coin scene. In fact none of the coins I gave to Heritage were CAC'ed. I left it up to Heritage to submit the coins they felt would have added value at the auction if they were CAC'ed. They selected about 50% of the coins to be reviewed. Today I would have submitted all the coins to VAC myself! As you noted my set of Registry Walkers are all CAC'ed. Again, congratulations on a great set! Steve Duckor

Posted at 5/18/2017 8:25 PM by sduckor

Beautiful set of Barer Halves!

Posted at 3/22/2017 6:41 PM by Dimeman

Perfection, thanks for sharing so many of the photos of your set. Absolutely beautiful coins and well thought out. I also like your comments on grading and your philosophy on putting together your set. I couldn't agree more that buying the coin, not the holder is always the most important thing. Happy hunting! Glenn

Posted at 7/7/2016 1:40 PM by PonyExpress8

Perfection. Thanks for your kind comments, and congratulations on such a fabulous set! All CAC coins, too, what an amazing accomplishment. Good luck on this set and others as you find other examples to add, if you can.

Posted at 7/1/2016 11:23 AM by PeterShireman

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