1908-S $5 AU58 Certification #44940606, PCGS #8512

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Charles Morgan

The 1908-S Indian Half Eagle

Bela Lyon Pratt's incuse Indian Half Eagle debuted in 1908. For the United States Mint, it was a design first; no coin that came before it had featured a sunken relief. Pratt's Native American figure was regal, weathered, and realistic. This shift to realism was a dramatic departure from Augustus Saint-Gaudens’ iconic Double Eagle and $10 Indian designs. The latter expressed the allegorical forms of Liberty drawn from French Neoclassicism and the Beaux-Arts school, of which the Cornish, New Hampshire sculptor was a master.

Pratt's figure veered toward photorealism, presaging Victor David Brenner's 1909 portrait of Abraham Lincoln on the cent and James Earle Fraser's magnificent Buffalo Nickel of 1913. Stylistic consistency was not a fundamental building block of America's "golden age" of coin design, however, as allegory returned in the three silver coin designs of 1916. When the era of American circulating gold coins came to a close in 1933, a permanent shift began toward a modern style of coinage where politicians became the symbols of the state. For the allegorical Liberty, the Great Depression and World War II saw Americans look more toward their living leaders than Enlightenment ideals.

 

Collecting the 1908-S Indian Half Eagle

1908 Indian Half Eagle Production

Philadelphia (#8510) Denver (#8511) San Francisco (#8512)
577,845 148,000 82,000
Scarce at MS65 and above Rare at MS65          Scarce at MS64 and above     

In 1908, the Indian Half Eagle was struck at three mints. The 1908-S remains the toughest of the three issues by a wide margin until you reach the PCGS MS65 grade level, where the 1908-D becomes the true rarity, seldom encountered in Gem condition. A small number of truly exceptional 1908-S Half Eagles survive, with several tracing back to the famous Virgil Brand hoard. The finest example has a rumored connection to Brand and later to gold coin dealer par excellence David W. Akers, who reportedly kept it in his personal collection. This remarkable specimen has since passed through the collections of Jim O'Neal and Texas Rangers owner Bob Simpson, and it is presently held in a private collection.

 
 
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PCGS #
8512
Designer
Bela Lyon Pratt
Edge
Reeded
Diameter
21.60 millimeters
Weight
8.36 grams
Mintage
82000
Metal
90% Gold, 10% Copper
Pop Higher
369
Pop Lower
268
Region
The United States of America
Price Guide
PCGS Population
Auctions - PCGS Graded
Auctions - NGC Graded

Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades
65 or Better 1666 R-4.7 3 / 24 3 / 24
All Grades 716 R-5.5 9 / 24 9 / 24
60 or Better 140 R-7.6 19 / 24 TIE 19 / 24 TIE
65 or Better 1666
All Grades 716
60 or Better 140
65 or Better R-4.7
All Grades R-5.5
60 or Better R-7.6
65 or Better 3 / 24
All Grades 9 / 24
60 or Better 19 / 24 TIE
65 or Better 3 / 24
All Grades 9 / 24
60 or Better 19 / 24 TIE

Condition Census Learn More

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 PCGS MS68  
	MS68 PCGS grade

(possibly) Virgil Brand; (possibly) David W. Akers; Heritage Auctions, July 2005, Lot 10366 - Passed. As PCGS MS68 #18307662. "The Jim O'Neal Collection," Heritage Auctions, January 2011, Lot 5135 - $126,500; Heritage Auctions, August 3, 2023, Lot 5373 - $164,500Bob R. Simpson. As  PCGS MS68 #40323810. "The Bob R. Simpson Collection," Heritage Auctions, September 17, 2020, Lot 10145 - $192,000

 

2 PCGS MS67 PCGS MS67

Heritage Auctions, November 1, 2013, Lot 3863 - $47,000; "The Palm Beach Gardens Collection," Heritage Auctions, May 9, 2024, Lot 4573 - $69,000

2 PCGS MS67 PCGS MS67

As PCGS MS67 #05430140. Heritage Auctions, January 4, 2007, Lot 3581 - Passed; Heritage Auctions, August 11, 2010, Lot 3519 - $43,125. As PCGS MS67 #18528661.

2 PCGS MS67  
	MS67 PCGS grade

Bob R. Simpson.

2 PCGS MS67  
	MS67 PCGS grade

Mike Chipman.

 
	MS68 PCGS grade 
#1 PCGS MS68

(possibly) Virgil Brand; (possibly) David W. Akers; Heritage Auctions, July 2005, Lot 10366 - Passed. As PCGS MS68 #18307662. "The Jim O'Neal Collection," Heritage Auctions, January 2011, Lot 5135 - $126,500; Heritage Auctions, August 3, 2023, Lot 5373 - $164,500Bob R. Simpson. As  PCGS MS68 #40323810. "The Bob R. Simpson Collection," Heritage Auctions, September 17, 2020, Lot 10145 - $192,000

 

PCGS MS67 #2 PCGS MS67

Heritage Auctions, November 1, 2013, Lot 3863 - $47,000; "The Palm Beach Gardens Collection," Heritage Auctions, May 9, 2024, Lot 4573 - $69,000

PCGS MS67 #2 PCGS MS67

As PCGS MS67 #05430140. Heritage Auctions, January 4, 2007, Lot 3581 - Passed; Heritage Auctions, August 11, 2010, Lot 3519 - $43,125. As PCGS MS67 #18528661.

 
	MS67 PCGS grade 
#2 PCGS MS67

Bob R. Simpson.

 
	MS67 PCGS grade 
#2 PCGS MS67

Mike Chipman.