1908 $20 Motto (Regular Strike)

Series: St. Gaudens $20 1907-1933

PCGS MS67

PCGS MS67

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PCGS MS66+

PCGS MS66+

PCGS MS66+

PCGS MS66+

PCGS #:
9147
Designer:
Augustus Saint Gaudens
Edge:
Lettered
Diameter:
34.00 millimeters
Weight:
33.40 grams
Mintage:
156,258
Mint:
Philadelphia
Metal:
90% Gold, 10% Copper
Major Varieties

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Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades Survival
Estimate
Numismatic
Rarity
Relative Rarity
By Type
Relative Rarity
By Series
All Grades 11,750 R-2.9 23 / 49 TIE 25 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 6,833 R-3.6 24 / 49 TIE 26 / 54 TIE
65 or Better 112 R-7.8 28 / 49 28 / 54
Survival Estimate
All Grades 11,750
60 or Better 6,833
65 or Better 112
Numismatic Rarity
All Grades R-2.9
60 or Better R-3.6
65 or Better R-7.8
Relative Rarity By Type All Specs in this Type
All Grades 23 / 49 TIE
60 or Better 24 / 49 TIE
65 or Better 28 / 49
Relative Rarity By Series All Specs in this Series
All Grades 25 / 54 TIE
60 or Better 26 / 54 TIE
65 or Better 28 / 54

Condition Census What Is This?

Pos Grade Image Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade

Bob R. Simpson Collection

2 MS66+ PCGS grade

“Fox” Collection

2 MS66+ PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade

Dr. Steven Duckor collection

4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
4 MS66 PCGS grade
#1 MS67 PCGS grade

Bob R. Simpson Collection

#2 MS66+ PCGS grade

“Fox” Collection

#2 MS66+ PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade

Dr. Steven Duckor collection

#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade
#4 MS66 PCGS grade
David Akers (1975/88): In mid-1908, after considerable public agitation for it, the motto IN GOD WE TRUST was added to the reverse and the obverse hub (and consequently the dies) was significantly strengthened. As a result, the 1908 With Motto appears more sharp and detailed than the earlier No Motto issues. (Interestingly, there are some 1908 With Motto specimens that have the weak 1908 No Motto obverse. I have seen only a few such specimens and they probably are quite rare.) The typical 1908 With Motto is very sharply struck and has the "soft" frosty finish; I don't recall ever seeing a satiny one. Lustre is usually a little subdued and the color is most often a light to medium greenish gold and orange. This is certainly not one of the "flashier" looking issues of the series.

In the past, this issue has sometimes been touted as being a tremendous rarity in Mint State. There is no doubt that it is very rare in MS-64 or better condition but below that level, it is only scarce, certainly not rare. Even in gem condition, I do not find it to be as rare as the 1909, 1911 or 1914 although admittedly others' experience may differ from mine. Dr. William Crawford once owned the nicest I have seen, a beautiful frosty gem he purchased from dealer Gordon Wrubel. Dr. Thaine Price owns another exceptional specimen. Dr. Steven Duckor and a prominent Eastern collector both have gems and there are others. Still, in gem condition, this is an issue that is almost never available.